Media Bin MIDI triggers don't echo back properly

Hey there!

I have an Akai MPD226 that I’m setting up to launch clips using the 4x4 pad banks. If I configure the Akai pads to be “Toggle” mode I run into an issue where, if VDMX ejects a clip and sends a note off event, the Akai won’t actually respect it, and I have to tap the pad twice to get the pad back into sync. This applies to the “Sync with UI” options for the media bin, the light on the pad will update, but not the note on/off state (because the Akai keeps separate note state internally I guess!)

At first I figured, no problem, I’ll just set the pads to momentary mode and have VDMX triggers echo back the value, that works when I have a custom control surface, and use toggle buttons.

But I quickly realized that, media triggers don’t seem to actually echo back the value to the controller. Is this expected? Using Protokol I can see the MIDI messages, but again, the note on state isn’t being echo’d back properly like it does when I use toggle buttons. and the clip only plays when I hold the pad.

I also noticed you can’t use “Toggle” mode on the boolean receivers for media bin clips, which blocked me from doing another workaround in this workflow.

Any advice on this? Or is this a potential thing that could be fixed?

As a side note it would be awesome to include more configuration options when triggering media clips, my current setup is I have a few 4x4 banks of clips I map to the pads, and have the bins set to Polyphonic so they jump to the next available layer so I can (during live sets) quickly launch clips to the screen, I’m just putting up with the silly double tap bug the Akai has, but being able to filter out specific MIDI messages on a receiver, like, “don’t listen to note-off” etc. would basically solve this for me.

Few Q’s can you adjust the button settings on the MPD226 with their software?

VDMX can receive send back the color and MIDI information as a momentary or Toggle, but if your device is sending on off, rise and fall data, then it depends on how you map it to VDMX that it will see it that way.

MIDI triggers in the media bin still have Toggle on Input or Value from Input settings. Toggle also has the rise and fall settings same as a custom control surface. The media bin send can let you change the colors of the toggled button.

There’s mention of changing feedback colors in this APC40 MKII tutorial: Akai APC40 MK II 2-Channel VJ Mixer template for VDMX — VDMX - MAC VJ SOFTWARE

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Unfortunately I think the MPD226 configuration is pretty limiting. I can only configure them to be momentary or toggle, or Program/Program Bank switch.

I ultimately worked around this by writing a little Python script to basically sit between VDMX and the Physical Controller. This works out fine for my use.

But I also wanted to note I can’t get the toggle on rise/fall to work with media bin triggers.

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