Dear fellow VDMXers,
I would like to know who to add a FX chain to multiple presets at once. Is that possible?
Or, otherwise, to add a FX chain to the main out layer, persisting throughout all already created presets.
I have created a “show” with presets for every song of my music, and now want to add a effect to the main out, for all presets…
cheers, roe
Hey Roe, I’m not sure what your canvas / output is?
I think you could make a secondary layer assigned to the same composition but with the primary layer as the source.
*This might be too much info and long winded:
For a recent show I had two projectors that I wanted to be able to have both images mirror themselves as well as act independently and lastly as a singular layer. I constructed my main canvas as a 3840 x 1080.
My Left 1 was 1920 x 1080, Right 1 same. I then created a Left 2 and Right 2.
L1 and R1 were assigned to left side of the main output and L2 and R2 were assigned to the right side of the main ouput.
L2 and R2 were assigned L1 and R1 as their source---- I believe you could assign your ‘overall’ FX to the secondary layers.
My situation might be a bit different than what your setup is, but I think you could make a secondary layer assigned to the same composition but with the primary layer as the source.
Could you share you project file?
Are you saying you made workspace presets for each song, or put the presets on the media clips themselves? (For example, enabling custom FX chain when launching a clip)
If you used custom FX for each clip, they will play with their own FX, then you can simply put another FX chain on your main Canvas/MainOutput
Well, dear roedaal, unfortunately I don’t know VDMX, but I can add a few things to the topic: I work with Resolume Arena and over 2 years ago I pointed out to the support that it is time for a “stack preset” and asked them to implement one. In other words, a higher-level preset that saves the clip settings and all the settings of the effects added to the clip (pictur, video or generator) in one preset, a Stackpreset. This would make work a lot easier and save small clip-compositions so that they can be restored quickly and easily even after a long time in a difrent project to use it like it was or adapting it a litle. At Resolume, they said it is a great idea but also involved a lot of programming work and I’m still waiting for it, probably another 2-3 years.
I hope that VIDVOX pays more attention to customer requests and it-standarts & that such an option is already available or will be available quick soon.
Stack presets have been the norm in programs long a go like at Photoshop etc. “for decades”, but some program manufacturers are unfortunately very fixated on their own wishes and ideas and fail to implement standards regardless of user needs.
In any case, I wish you a pleasant pre-Christmas period with only the best wishes from the mountainous, snowy Switzerland bennoH.
Mates, thank you all for your answers and suggestions.
My situation is like this: I have made workspace presets for every song of the band I “perform” the visuals live. They include layers, bins, fx settings and so forth. I am mixing these live controlled by a nanokontrol.
All good so far (still learning ;)
What I miss is like a “master fx chain” to rule them all in the canvas/main output that can be applied and is not altered when triggering presets. F.i. I arrive at a venue and have to adapt sthing to the beamer situation, I have to edit the fx chain and update and save every existing preset.
Since I am still learning this program, I am not sure if I don’t see the right way to do it… until now, i create a fx chain, save it as asset, and step through all presets and update them, which is tedious and prone to failure imho.
kind regards, roe.
Hi John, this is also a possible approach, but the main problem is, that the canvas/main out settings imho are stored within a preset, and working with many presets in a show means editing all of these every time I arrive at a new venue, instead just - what i like to call it - master chain (composition and fx).
What would help big time:
A Button on the main output control and fx window that LOCKS the current state, regardless what preset is triggered. Thus it could function as a master setting how I would like it ;)
dear bennoh, thanks for your wishes… i send regards from Vienna :), still waiting for “real” winter to come.
If you have multiple versions of vdmx you could add a syphon out plugin on each of your presets and then send them to another version of vdmx.
So for instance, vdmx6 could be feeding into vdmx5 and all of your master effects could be on vdmx5
Please stop posting when you provide little context except acknowledging you have nothing to add to conversation and not being a user of the software.
I think as ProjectileObjects pointed out, I think you should be able to utilize the Canvas/Main Output FX.
Just below ‘Load Asset’ you’ll see the + R buttons. Load your preferred FX chains and hit the + symbol. That will save that as a triggered preset for that layer (there is probably actual names for those buttons and this action).
I am sorry if you see it that way and I will take your advice to heart in the future. Thank you
By the way, a outputeffctchain can be solved more elegantly in Arena but it is not the final solution for the describet situation, that would be a stackpreset and I just would have been interested to know whether such a stackpreset option which combines several effects with one medium/clip is implemented in VDMX.
But it is not that important, have a nice and peaceful Advent season my dear
Yes, thank you @johnschlue. At @roedaal. VDMX has lots of powerful features, but some go unnoticed. For anyone out there who is curious about VDMX, there is a comprehensive guide located here: VDMX | VIDVOX Docs
Over time people get better at visualizing and building out their project. There are multiple ways to do what you are describing, one could have been to use the cue list plugin to trigger each of the tracks for your bands songs, not a workspace preset. Or the other is to have each clip in the media bin trigger it’s own FX chain (all this could have been done in the same workspace preset). Since you’ve gone about building out your project this way, you’ll want to look into the preset options for each workspace preset.
For example, you can use the main canvas output (or a top master layer / group), and make it so that it does not restore / update when you trigger a new workspace preset. In effect, doing this “master preset” that you are looking for.
As for @bennoH, I completely agree with @Destroythings. it makes little sense for you to begin a tangent on this discussion about a feature Resolume did not implement, when this is a VDMX question, and you are not a VDMX user. As mentioned above, what the OP is asking is possible in VDMX.
Ok, thank you.
Have a nice day.
Thanks for the continued suggestions.
There is a reason why I chose a workspace preset for each “song” of my band. I am using many different sources organised in bins and fx chains and manipulating them live and improvising. it is not a fixed and readymade show with cuelists.
I don’t see how this would work out as a master preset. the settings you mention are on a per-preset basis (preset inspector). This means, I can disable whats updated when this specific preset is triggered. Unfortunately I don’t see the possibility to tell the main canvas to not update when whatever preset is triggered. Is there?
Try this:
Make a backup of your project. - File > Update Preset Save Project As
Go to your first workspace preset and trigger it. Now add a new group or use an existing one. You are not using your Canvas/ Main Output FX, so I used that one, and popped it out and put a color controls FX on it.
Then turn on “Don’t restore” for the rest of the presets and save the project.
If you created a new layer to act as your main output with these new FX you may have to create that blank/ new layer for each song, and update the preset, but you’ll only have to do it once.
Make sure you keep restore for at least one of the presets otherwise it won’t restore when you first load the project.
I’ve pulled out the main canvas FX in your first preset “Preshow” and turned off “Don’t Restore” for all the other ones. You’ll see that when you change the workspace preset, the FX window doesn’t move. It may get hidden behind the rest of the GUI, but its still there and the color controls FX is still on.
1000flames.work.2.vdmx6.zip (1.8 MB)
I will use this method from now on. Seems to be best fit for my way of thinking 
Thank you!
are your presets functional after adding fx-chains? each layer provide arguments, string$ that you want to sync with your music, so if you deliberately delete any fx-chain during a performa. fx-chain cannot process your request after multiple callbacks and feedback loop will actually make all your presets to used up all system memory. a way I discovered from using fx-tool chain is understand how they response with stacking of fx-tool-chains from algorithmic synchrony and, each preset or layer should use a predetermined numbers of fx-tools. these problems dependent to your GPU and CPU asset, even the most high-end Mac Pro will have algorithmic convolution and environment independence from available system data inside operational memory. all mention allowance is working but without data sequential planning, all processing CUPS and RAM and System Bus System bus - Wikipedia
are visually problematic with Fx-Chain inside a large environment using standardise computing power.
Hey this is a little wacky but as someone with multiple machines i absolutely love the idea and thank you for expressing it as i don’t feel I would have ever thought that up. In fact, you totally give me a reason to boot up my hackintosh when I get to the studio this week! Send vdmx to vdmx holy moly
can you send syphon across a network? wow. I assumed it would only work on the same machine.
